币圈大佬内讧了!互揭割韭菜内幕,称骗子看谁都是骗子,被揭底裤的大佬们纷纷还击 “傻逼看谁都是傻逼,骗子看谁都是骗子”,币圈内外,最近怕是都被句“名言”惊到了。国内明星项目是在炒空气、区块链最重要的是.
资讯 2024-06-19 阅读:162 评论:0“傻逼看谁都是傻逼,骗子看谁都是骗子”,币圈内外,最近怕是都被句“名言”惊到了。国内明星项目是在炒空气、区块链最重要的是打造社群和IP,而这些都从“中国比特币首富”李笑来的一段录音里流出,把币圈内外吓得一比。
"Look who's a fool, liar who's a liar," inside and outside the currency, they've been shocked recently by the word "famous." The domestic star project is to create communities and IPs in the air, in the chain of blocks, and it's the most important thing that comes out of a recording of Li's laughter by "China's First Rich" that scares the inside and outside of the currency.
7月3日深夜,几乎所有与币圈和区块链有关的微信群都在流传一段录音,录音内容是“中国比特币首富”李笑来自述如何割韭菜,录音中,李笑来不但否认了自己在公开场合所宣称的价值投资,而且更透露了NEO等国内明星项目是在炒空气。
Late on the night of 3 July, almost all the micro-message related to currency circles and block chains were circulating a recording of “China's richest” Li laughter from how to cut herbs. In the recording, Li laughter not only denied his stated value investment in public, but also revealed that domestic stars such as NEO were cooking air.
李笑来直言不讳地表示,如果自己不收割韭菜,也会有别人来收割。并洋洋得意地表示目前区块链最重要的是打造社群和IP,这段录音被一些人称“揭开了币圈的底裤”。
Li laughed and said, "If he doesn’t harvest herbs, someone else will come to harvest them." And he was proud to say that the most important thing in the current chain is to build communities and IPs, a recording that some call "the underpants of the currency."
几乎与录音同时流传的,还有一份根据录音整理的word文档,从文档的内容来看,是人为整理,文档中的记录并不精准,在有些听不清的地方标注出了录音时间。
Almost at the same time as the recording, there is also a Word document that is organized according to the recording, which, from the content of the document, is artificially organized, the records in the document are not accurate, and the time of the recording is indicated in some places where it is hard to hear.
另外值得注意的是,录音明确显示,该段对话发生的时间是春节期间。由此产生的一个疑问是,如此“劲爆”的内容,为何在四个月后“意外”流出?在录音流出的同时,为何精心整理过的文字也几乎是同时流出,是意外,还是故意为之,这也是一个有争议的焦点。
It is also interesting to note that the recording clearly shows that the dialogue in this paragraph takes place during the Spring Festival. One question that arises is why the content of such a “explosive” leaks “unfortunately” after four months? It is also a controversial point as to why, at the same time, the carefully collated text flows almost simultaneously, accidentally or intentionally.
一方面,有观点认为,这种负面信息怎么看都是“自损八百”,也有业内人士认为录音是被故意放出来的,目的正是李笑来所说“蹭热度”,“放一段录音,满世界转发帮李笑来既传播了思想又免费做了一次全网IP,本来大半年销声匿迹,随着撕逼分裂加录音三部曲,恐怕后面该用各种项目粉墨登场了”,该人士对券商中国记者表示。
On the one hand, there is a view that such negative information can be seen as “self-defeating 800” and that there are people in the industry who believe that the recording was deliberately released for what Li laughter called “heating”, “bringing a piece of the recording, relaying it to Li to spread ideas and making a free Internet-wide IP, which would have disappeared for most of the year and, with the tearing of the split and the recording of the trilogy, I am afraid, should be put on the scene with a variety of project ink” — a statement was made to Chinese journalists.
这种套路似曾相识,5月底,曾有一段“初链true-chain操盘割韭菜语音”也在各微信群流传,录音内容为初链相关人士与市值管理人员讨论如何拉盘,甚至具体至时间和价格,虽然方案最终如何尚未确定,但无疑给人一种项目方会拉盘的预期。有业内人士对券商中国记者表示当时的语音为故意流出,目的是为了明确告知会拉盘以吸引更多资金。而实际上,这种方法的确见效,在记者所在的币圈微信群中,有人明确表示价格合适后会买入。
At the end of May, there was also a “first chain true-chain cabbage voice” circulating among micro-letters, recording discussions between the initial chain-related persons and market-market managers about how to pull a plate, or even the exact time and price, which, although not yet determined, undoubtedly gave the project party the expectation that it would pull a plate. Industry sources told Chinese journalists that the voice was deliberately flowing in order to inform the board clearly that it would attract more money.
币圈黑料层出不穷,割韭菜或许也是一种共识。从李笑来的录音内容来看,其实并没有更多增量或者重磅的信息,但因为李笑来在币圈“教父”一般的地位,这些内容便显得神秘而无可置疑。对于将李奉若大佬并一路追随的”粉丝“来说,这无疑是伤感情的。一位区块链媒体人表示,半年前人人都知道但挖不出的料,没想到当事人自己讲出来这么干净利落。
From Li’s laughter recording, there is no more incremental or heavy-pound information, but it seems mysterious and indisputable because Li laughs at his position as “Godfather” in the currency. This is certainly emotional for the fan who follows Big Bong-joo and follows him.
有趣的是,在录音中,李笑来不仅讲了自己是如何割韭菜的,还炮轰了一众区块链明星项目的创始人如NEO创始人达鸿飞、“最大空气币”波场创始人孙宇晨、以及币圈大佬老猫、全球交易量排名前五的交易所币安创始人赵长鹏等。
Interestingly, in the recording, Li laughed not only about how he cut his vegetables, but also about the founders of the block chain star project, such as NEO founder Da Hong Fei, Sun Woo-moo, the founder of the “Maximum Aerial Currency” wave, as well as the big-ass cat, and the top five founders of the world trade, Zhao Chang Peng.
这些所谓币圈“大佬”,在李笑来的描述中却很渺小,老猫自诩比特币早期布道者,却被李笑来视为“nobody”,以技术著称的赵长鹏被李笑来称“不懂技术”,币安也被斥为“骗子交易所”,认定孙宇晨“指定是忽悠”,波场能做起来是因为“明知道他是忽悠都不好意思骂他忽悠,怕别人骂自己傻逼”,而对于“国产公链”NEO,李笑来透露,其创始人达鸿飞手里已经没有多少币了,都被资金盘拿走了。
These so-called currency circles, the so-called “big man”, are small in Lee's laughter description of the early sermons of Bitcoin, but they are laughed at by Lee as “nobody”, and the technically known Zhao Chang-pings are laughed at by Lee as “not knowing the technology”, and the currency was called the “false exchange”, and it was determined that Sun Woo-mun was “prescriptive”, which was made because “knowing that he was a fool, he was afraid others would call himself a fool”, while the “state-producing public chain” of NEO was laughed at by Li, who revealed that his founder, Da Hung, had lost a few coins in his hands and was taken away from the money plate.
“大佬”的爆料显得很劲爆,但原本被视为利空的消息,引爆了舆论的同时,在市场上却并没有什么影响,从今天的行情来看,甚至还有些飘红。
The material of the Big Man appeared to be powerful, but when it was seen as a tip-off, it triggered public opinion, it had little impact on the market, and today's behaviour was somewhat red.
下面是网友整理出的录音精华,一位token fund人士对券商中国记者表示,录音基本把国内币圈说的一清二楚。
Below are some of the highlights of the recordings compiled by the online community, and a Token fund told Chinese journalists of the coup d'état that the recordings were largely clear about the domestic currency circles.
被“揭底裤”的“大佬们”
The big guys who got their pants blown off.
“币圈大佬”已经成为一个新的财富团体。与传统金融行业甚至以回报高著称的VC/PE相比,他们的财富攫取手段单一,资产更为隐蔽,效率更是前者无法比拟的。一位从事数字货币量化交易的人士曾对券商中国记者表示,“我们是新金融,不是传统金融”。
Compared to the traditional financial sector, which is even known for its rewards, VC/PE, their wealth is seized by a single means, and their assets are more hidden and more efficient. A digital money-quantified trader once said to Chinese journalists, “We are new, not traditional finance.”
与传统金融从业者相比,币圈在某种程度上更接近IT企业。相应的,相较于传统金融行业人士惯有的谨慎严谨,币圈新贵们往往也有一种草莽气息,挑战既有规则的勇气,巧妙的野路子,强大的执行力,当然,也包括割韭菜的直接和无情,比如,币圈大佬“宝二爷”,在美国的豪宅就起名“韭菜庄园”,而在进入币圈前,他在山西卖牛肉。
The currency circle is somewhat closer to IT enterprises than traditional financial operators. Correspondingly, there is often a recklessness in the currency circle than in the traditional financial industry, which challenges the courage of the rules, the smartness of the road, the power of enforcement, and, of course, the direct and ruthlessness of cutting vegetables, for example, the big mound "Bulbun" in the United States, and before entering the currency, he sells beef in Shanxi.
这是一副币圈扑克牌,牌面上印制的便是所谓的“币圈大佬”,而各位大佬的地位和知名度,从牌序大小便可窥得一二。最大的是比特币创始人中本聪,第二的是以太坊创始人,目前24岁的“v神”,在国内币圈人物中,排名第一的是“中国比特币首富”李笑来,而此次被他炮轰的几位“大佬”,在扑克牌上也名列前茅,NEO小蚁创始人达鸿飞、量子链创始人帅初的牌序是“老k”,币安创始人兼ceo赵长鹏牌序为“J”,波场创始人孙宇晨,这位号称“马云门徒”的90后,牌序仅为“梅花6”。
This is a coin ring, which is printed on the face of the so-called "Big Money Circle", and the status and visibility of the big guys can be seen from the size of the chain. The biggest is Bentcoin's founder, and the second is the "V God", 24-year-old founder of Taihu, who is ranked first among the people in the domestic currency circle by the "Bittercoin First Rich" Lee, while the "Big Man" who was shelled by him this time is also at the top of the poker game, and the founder of the NEO Little Ant, Da Hung Fei, and the founder of the Quantico Chain, is the "Bold K", the founder of the coin and founder of the "J" and the founder of the Boeing House, Sun Woo morning, after the 90th of the "Maunmen".
“大佬站台”是币圈一大奇观。“大佬们”多为币圈的早期参与者,在圈内有较深的人脉,也因为参与早,得以极低的价格购入比特币、以太坊等主流数字货币,在2017年的ICO狂潮中,财富实现了成百上千倍的增长。
In 2017, in the ICO boom, wealth grew hundreds and thousands of times over, owing to the fact that the big guys were early participants in the circle, had a deeper human connection within the circle, and because of their early participation, they were able to buy into mainstream digital currencies such as bitco and Taicha at very low prices.
这背后的逻辑是,一方面,大佬们先前囤积的主流币翻了几倍,而通过站台获得的代币,在上线交易所后往往也有几倍到几十倍的回报。站台,充当的是“形象代言人”的角色,至于项目的真假好坏,大佬们显然是不负责的。“宝二爷”站台的价格是2%的代币,假设一个项目的市值为2000万,只要把宝二爷的头像印在白皮书上,宝二爷便可以有价值40万的代币入袋。
The logic behind this is, on the one hand, that the main currency that the big man had previously hoarded has doubled several times, and the tokens obtained through the station are often several to several dozen times the return on the upper-line exchange. The station, which acts as an “image spokesperson”, is obviously irresponsible for the project. The price of the “Bolf Two” stands is 2%, assuming that the market value of a project is 20 million.
这幅扑克牌上的帅初、达鸿飞、火星人等人,除了自己的项目外,也为不少项目充当了站台人的角色,那么他们自己的项目进展如何呢?仅从行情来看,半年时间,用腰斩已不足以形容其跌幅。而在面对李笑来的“揭底”时,这些币圈大佬也通过微博等社交网络进行了回应。券商中国记者对录音中提到了项目进行简要梳理。
In addition to their own projects, Martians and others have played the role of a platform for a number of projects. By the way, six months alone, beheadings are no longer enough to describe their fall.
NEO(小蚁)和量子链是国内公链项目的两个明星。NEO小蚁币是国内首个开源公有链项目和智能资产平台。简单来说,NEO=数字资产+智能合约+数字身份,可用于股权众筹、股权交易、债权转让、供应链金融等领域,也有人称“中国以太坊”。
NEO is the country's first open-source public-chain project and smart asset platform. In short, NEO = digital assets + smart contracts + digital identities, which can be used in areas such as equity collection, equity trading, transfer of claims, supply chain finance, and others called “China Ethermin.”
从行情来看,NEO价格的暴涨是从2017年6月开始的,在2018年初的疯狂牛市中,NEO价格一度飙升至162美金。随后伴随着币圈熊市的到来,NEO也价格也一路下行,目前价格在42美元左右,这一水平与去年12月持平,四个月内已跌去逾70%。券商中国记者注意到,在币圈评级机构大炮评级出具的4月份区块链项目代码质量榜单中,NEO当月仅提交4项代码,且连续数月垫底。
The boom in NEO prices began in June 2017, and in the mad cow market at the beginning of 2018, NEO prices jumped to 162 dollars. Then, with the advent of the currency bear market, NEO prices have gone down the same way, now at around $42, which is the same level as last December and has fallen by more than 70% in four months.
小蚁ICO始于2015年11月,募集额为2100个比特币,按当时比特币的价格,每个小蚁的价格为人民币0.0462元。
The Little Ant ICO began in November 2015 with a collection of 2,100 bitcoins, at a price of 0.0462 yuan per ant at that time.
李笑来在录音中表示,NEO就是个傻逼项目,根本没东西,如果你是王利杰你也一块五抛,达鸿飞手里没有几个币,都是后面资金盘玩起来的。
Li laughed and said on the tape that the NEO was a stupid project, that there was nothing. If you were Wang Li Jie, you'd throw it all together. Da Hung didn't have a few coins in his hand.
对此达鸿飞回应,“关于NEO部分不多,除了事实错误都是臆断,没啥好回应。”
In response to this, Da Hung Fei said, "There is not much to say about the NEO, except that the truth is wrong and there is nothing to respond to it."
量子链一个开源的社区,可以通过价值传输协议来实现点对点的价值转移,并根据此协议,构建一个支持多个行业(金融、物联网、供应链、社交游戏等)的去中心化的应用开发平台(DAPP Platform)。量子链创始人帅初曾是中国科学院博士,凭借量子链项目于2017年7月入选《福布斯》30岁以下精英榜。
The Quantum Chain, an open-source community, can achieve value transfer of point-to-points through a value transfer agreement, under which a decentralised application development platform (DAPP Platform) that supports multiple industries (finance, material networking, supply chains, social games, etc.) is built. The founder of the Quantum Chain was first a doctor of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, and was elected to the Forbes elite under the age of 30 in July 2017 through the Quantum Chain Project.
对于这样一个红人,李笑来是这样炮轰的,“帅初,我是第一个给他卖空气币的人,他会忽悠,长得也帅,到处忽悠。”李笑来表示,帅初做的就是空气币,我帮他卖了6个月的空气币,不然他哪里有今天?当初他们告诉我说我要做一个是什么?桥接比特币和以太坊的桥接。我一听,第一,靠谱,第二,简单能做。所以我感觉卖空气币一样。当然,如果他如果像现在一样,直接就告诉我要做生态,我会骂他,让他做完再说。但现在回过头来看,他真的是一个牛逼的忽悠者,长的也帅。
For a red man like this, Lee laughs like this, "I'm the first one to sell him an air coin, and he's the first one to cheat, and he's the first to look at it, and he's the first to look at it." Li laughs and says, "What's the first thing I've done, and I've sold him six months of air coins, or where is he today?" They told me what I was going to do? The bridge between Bitcoin and Ether. I heard, first, it's good, and second, it's simple. So I felt like selling an air coin. Of course, if he told me directly that he wanted to be an eco, I would curse him and let him finish it. But now I look back and see that he really is a scoundrel and handsome.
对于李笑来的此番言论,帅初并未回应。在量子链中文社区中,则进行了这样的回复。
There's no response to Lee's laughter. In the Chinese community of quantum chains, there's a response.
但从量子的价格来看,也是经历了大幅缩水。跌幅较NEO有过之无不及。
But in terms of quantum prices, it also experienced a sharp contraction. The drop was greater than that of the NEO.
除了区块链项目负责人外,李笑来也没放过交易所,并把矛头直接指向了交易量最大的交易所之一的币安及其创始人赵长鹏。币安于2017年9月4日后声名鹊起,赵长鹏作为创始人,在进军区块链之前曾担任过彭博社技术总监,后以联合创始人的身份加入OKCoin,出任CTO,管理OKCoin的技术团队。其所执掌的币安也以技术过硬和安全性著称。
With the exception of the head of the block chain project, Li laughed at the exchange and pointed directly at one of the most traded exchanges, Yuan An and his founder, Zhao Chang Peng. The currency was famous after September 4th, 2017, when Zhao Chang Peng, as founder, served as Technical Director of the Bloomberg Society before entering the military block chain, joined as co-founder of OkCoin and became a technical team of the CTO, managing OKCoin. The currency he held was also known for its technical rigidity and security.
币安成立伊始即立足国际市场,只支持币币交易,而当时交易所进行法币交易尚未被禁止,币安的这一做法显得特立独行。也正是因为未涉及法币交易,在该项业务被禁止后,币安迅速崛起。而在李笑来看来,“赵长鹏人品不好,跟徐明星也有黑历史,他其实不太懂技术。只不过因为大家都关了交易所,他不关,大家都退出了他不退,就因为他是加拿大人,否则有他啥事。”
When the currency was established, it was based on the international market and supported only currency transactions, when the exchange had not been banned, and the currency appeared to be unique. It was precisely because the deal had not been dealt with, and when the business had been banned, the currency had risen rapidly. And Li laughter said, "Cho Chang Peng is bad and he has a black history with Xu Star, and he doesn't really know much about technology. It's just because everyone shuts the exchange, he doesn't closes, everyone quits because he's Canadian, otherwise he's nothing."
对此,币安联合创始人何一回应,傻逼看谁都是傻逼,骗子看谁都是骗子;不懂技术的人对懂技术的人做判断可信?币安确实还有很多需要提高的地方,还需要继续努力,做好自己就是最有力的证明。
How can the founder of the union respond to this: fools who are fools and liars who are liars; technocrats who judge technocrats who are credible? There is a lot that really needs to be improved, and there is a lot of work to do, and being good is the strongest proof.
价值投资是扯淡,割韭菜是最大的共识
Value investment is bullshit, cutting pickles is the biggest consensus.
“共识”是区块链的灵魂。在区块链的世界中,“共识机制”维系着整个系统的运行,所谓“去中心化”唯有在合适的共识机制的运作下才能实现,它就像一个国家的法律,维系着区块链世界的正常运转。
“Consensus” is the soul of the block chain. In the world of the block chain, the “consensus mechanism” sustains the functioning of the entire system. The so-called “decentralization” can be achieved only if the appropriate consensus mechanism operates. It is like the law of a country, which sustains the normal functioning of the block chain world.
区块链作为一个去中心化的分布式账本,如何实现各个节点之间同步或按照一定时间顺序共同记帐,就需要各个节点达成一个共识,为了维系这个共识,则需要一个机制,从技术层面而言,目前主流的共识机制有pow工作量证明机制,也就是我们通常说的“挖矿”,pos权益证明机制和Dpos委托权益证明机制。
As a decentralized distributed book, how to synchronize or co-record between nodes in a certain chronological order requires a common understanding of the nodes. In order to sustain this consensus, a mechanism is needed. At the technical level, the prevailing consensus mechanism has a workload proof mechanism, commonly referred to as the “mining”, the “property certificate” mechanism and the “deprivation certificate” mechanism.
从通证经济的角度来说,对token价值的判断也是一种共识。比如,对比特币来说,形成了一种比特币有价值或者未来价格能够上涨的预期,有这种预期的人越来越多,这种预期就成了一种共识。其他token也是如此。从某种程度而言,这也是币圈的一种共识,是炒币的基础。“世上本无路,走的人多了,也便有了路”,共识大概也是这样形成的。
Token’s value is also a consensus from the point of view of the tranco economy. For example, for Bitcoin, there is an expectation that bitcoins will be valuable or that future prices will increase, and this is the case with more and more people. The same is true for other tokens.
但在李笑来看来,“傻逼的共识也是共识,傻逼多,有共识,也会产生价值,所以,我们这些自认为不傻逼的人也要接受这个事实。”
But as Lee laughs, "The consensus of fools is also the consensus, the number of fools, the value of consensus, so we, the people who think we are not fools, must accept this fact."
李笑来举了这样一个例子,“我天天骂中医,中医就是傻逼,但中医上市公司股票我真买了。为什么?道理很简单,我知道傻逼信,傻逼众多,然后我知道我不买,别人会买,这钱我为什么不赚?”
Li laughter came up with an example of this: "I swear every day that Chinese medicine is stupid, but I buy the stock of the company listed by Chinese medicine. Why? It's simple. I know it's stupid, and I know it's stupid, and then I know I don't buy it, and I don't buy it. Why don't I make it?"
从录音内容来看,对于如何建立这种以“割韭菜”为终结目的的共识,李笑来很有自己的办法,反观他成名直至晋升币圈大佬之路,圈粉丝、打造IP、构建社群这些手段被运用的炉火纯青。
From the sound recordings, Li laughter has his own approach to building this consensus for the end of “clicting vegetables” and looks at the way he is famous until he is promoted to the big money circles, the fans, the IPs, the communities that are used to make the fires green.
“第一是搞社群,第二是打造IP,IP是需要营造的,我走了一条很长的路,所以我好像没有营造一样”。
“The first is to make a community, the second is to build an IP that needs to be built, and I've come a long way, so I don't seem to build it”.
相较于其他区块链大佬,李笑来的身份更多样化,他曾是新东方的明星讲师,是畅销书作者,是专栏作家。录音中,他以自己为例分析了IP打造方法。
He was a star lecturer in the new East, a best-selling author, and a columnist. In the recording, he analysed the IP-making method for his own example.
“我实际上是一个网红。我有很大的读者群,在这个世界(虚拟币领域),谁像我一样有100万读者?所以一瞬间就有爆发。在熊市里我又干了另外一件事,我开始写专栏,熊市你又赚不了钱,你就攒人气。我开了微信公众账号。次年罗振宇帮我卖书,马上我又跟他合作开专栏。等大牛市来了的时候,我影响力变得比原来还大。这里的核心竞争力是人流。接下来是什么?你怎么去忽悠这件事,你不要把忽悠理解为贬义。”
"I'm actually a redhead. I'm a big reader. Who has a million readers like me in this world (virtual currency area)? So it breaks out in an instant. I did another thing in Bear City. I started writing a column, and you didn't make any money in Bear City. I opened a micro-public account. The next year I sold my book, and I started a column with him. When Big Cow came, I had greater influence. The core of competitiveness here was human. What's next?
有了IP、有了流量、披上技术的外衣后如何变现呢?李笑来称,两者都有后要去开交易所。并称3月份做了交易所toB服务,把开交易所变成开博客一样,“就起个名字,找个域名,点几下鼠标。”
What happens when you have an IP, a flow, and a technology coat? Li laughter says that both are going to start an exchange. And he says he made an exchange toB service in March, turning the start-up into a blog, and he says, "Get a name, get a domain name, get a couple of mouse hits."
如此看来,交易所也是收割韭菜的重要一环,而且是有基础、有流量、有技术基础上,更高级的环节。
In this way, the exchange is also an important part of the harvesting of pickles, and is a more advanced segment based on basic, flow-based, technology-based approach.
此外,在录音中,李笑来推翻了自己在公开场合一直宣称的价值投资,“如果你随波逐流地认为价值投资是对的,那你注定是个傻逼平庸的人物。这个公开场合我是不能说的,但是道理很简单,讲价值投资的结果是什么?大量的好币你根本就投不上。”,同时他承认“事实上我也是”,或许韭菜们听到这句能感到一丝安慰。
Moreover, in the recording, Li laughs to overturn the value investment he has been saying in public: “If you think that value investment is right, you're bound to be a fool. I can't say it in public, but the truth is simple. What is the result of value investment?
“首富”OR“首负”?李笑来争议不断
"Big Rich" OR "Big? "Li laughs and talks about it.
回到最初的问题,录音到底是无意泄漏,还是故意流出,还是要打一个问号。快的打车创始人陈伟星在进入币圈后一直在“打黑”李笑来,其多条微博和微信朋友圈均公开指责李笑来站台和投资的项目为“空气币”,并表示李笑来实际并无多少比特币资产。
Back to the initial question, whether the recording was unintentionally leaked or leaked, or whether it was a question mark. The fast-tracking founder, Chen Wei-Sung, had been “blacking” Lee since entering the currency ring, and many of his microblogging and Twitter friends had publicly accused Lee of standing and investing in a project called “air coins” and said that Li’s laughter actually had little bitcoin assets.
此次李笑来录音曝光后,陈伟星发微博表示,李笑来自己放个录音出来自证骗子本质,赤裸裸地讲诉他的骗术逻辑:“做网红、圈粉丝再发一堆垃圾币高价销售给他们。其微博全文如下:
After Li's laughter came out, Chen Wei Xing posted a tweet, saying that Li's laughter came out of evidence of the nature of the liar and told him the logic of the trick: "Being a net red fan and sending them a pile of junk money for sale. The text of his tweet reads as follows:
1.?他不是什么首富,相反他用各种手段集资了很多币和钱,这些钱都是要还的,有大概率他是币圈“首负”。包括30000个比特币的bitfund基金、inb的3亿人民币、bigone上的big、one、pressone等20多个传销币和空气币、多年来十几个法币公司的募资集资、拉支付宝群搞风利基金风利债权(几万几十万这样的向散户募资)等等,这些钱都是不合法律规范的集资,这些钱都是要还的!但他每次给人看的都是同一波钱以造成首富假象,其实很可能根本不够还这些币和钱!
He's not the richest. Instead, he collects a lot of coins and money by a variety of means. It's all in return. It's probably the first of the coins. It's the 30,000 bitfund funds, the inb 300 million yuan, the big, one, the pressone on the bigone, more than 20 passing coins and air coins, the collection of money from dozens of French-currency companies over the years, the collection of money to pay the fortunes of the Treasure Fund (in the tens of thousands of thousands of dollars) and so on.
2. bigone交易所客户预存的代币,严重已经怀疑被挪用或者盗窃,官方披露的冷热钱包只有小几千个eth,200多个比特币,这些币还不如一个大户钱多,一个交易所只有这么点币不可想象。bigone平台币用40%的分红回报承诺拿big代币募集了一笔钱,然后单方面停止约定再发one代币通过交易挖矿的高价返还分红的形式再募一笔钱,然后几天后又单方面停止交易;pressone他在9.4的时候义正言辞的说退币不给政府惹麻烦,然后不久就去bigone上ieo,割掉散户90%。这种类似的垃圾韭菜币20多个在bigone上用来割韭菜,bigone交易所就是他血淋淋的私人韭菜屠杀场。
2. The currency reserved by the customers of the Bigone Exchange is seriously suspected of being embezzled or stolen, and the official disclosure of cold and hot wallets is only a few thousand Eths and over 200 bits of coins, which are not as much as a large account, and one exchange is not as small as it can imagine. With 40% of the money in return, the Bigone platform has promised to collect money in the form of big, then unilaterally stopped agreeing to pay one more in exchange for the return of the money in the form of a bonus through the high value of the transaction's mining, and then, a few days later, unilaterally stopped the transaction; the pressone's confession at 9.4 did not cause trouble to the Government, and soon went to Bigone to get rid of 90 per cent of the dislocated household. More than 20 of this kind of junk is used on Bigone, the bigone Exchange is his private kitchen slaughter ground for his blood-drying.
3.?他的粉丝运营模式,就是在telegram上拉个3-4万人的大聊天群,不断的把有反对意见的人以“不合适投资人”的说法踢出去,不断的拉被他的光环吸引的新韭菜进群。这些人是他圈钱发币卖币的核心力量,也有不少心知肚明故意跟着骗新韭菜,大家都指望着李笑来拉进新人可以接自己的盘。
His fan model, which is a 3-4 million-strong chat group on Telegram, constantly kicks opponents out in the form of “unsuitable investors” and constantly pulls new pickles attracted by his halo. These are the core of his money-for-money-for-money-for-money-for-money-for-money-for-thought-for-all, and everyone expects Lee to laugh in order to get the newcomer to pick up their own plate.
4.?他以未来“区块链”没有金融中介,所以要直接面向散户,以所谓区块链社群的名义,义正言辞的收割韭菜,毫无保护信息弱势平民的价值观,玷污和消费“区块链”,属于行业认知度的癌细胞、毒瘤,这也是为啥必须得揭露他的原因。
He has no financial intermediaries in the future “block chain”, so he has to go directly to the diaspora, in the name of the so-called block chain community, to harvest vegetables in the name of the word, without protecting the values of the information vulnerable civilian population, to sully and consume the “block chain”, a cancer cell, a cancer tumor that is recognized in the industry, and why he has to be exposed.
5.?他在某城市搞所谓百亿基金,只是利用当地善意而不知情政府领导和风险投资引导基金的政策,伪造出“政府基金”公众印象。现在政府一分钱还没有出,他总共也就募集了几千万,就四处以“政府的百亿基金”的名义,欺骗创业者和散户,投资了多个发币相关和交易所公司,然后与这些公司一起以“政府”站台概念忽悠“粉丝”。因为币圈的特殊性,政府公信力特别受散户欢迎,这种盗用政府名义给自己站台营造形象收割散户的行为也必须被揭穿。
He's running a so-called $10 billion fund in a city, using local goodwill and uninformed government leadership and risk-investment-led fund policies to falsify the public image of a “government fund”. Now that the government has not paid, he has raised tens of millions of dollars, deceiving entrepreneurs and displacing households in the name of a “government $10 billion fund” and investing in a number of money-producing and exchange companies.
6.?区块链行业也有不少想做事想创造价值的人,李笑来的毒瘤价值观企图把所有的人都拉下水,都说成是骗子,以显示自己的骗子行为的合理性,这是非常邪恶的混淆视听的逻辑。我个人和他没有私怨,完全是因为看不下去这种行业引领性的毒瘤行为。
6. There are also a lot of people in the block chain industry who want to do something to create value, and Li’s laughter’s cancer values, which attempt to drag all of them into the water as liars in order to show the legitimacy of his own fraud, are very evil logics of confusion. I have no personal quarrels with him, simply because I can’t see the industry’s leading cancer behaviour.
而就在半月前,陈伟星也曾发文声讨李笑来,内容与上述内容大概一致,主要是指责李笑来挪用投资者的数字货币等。李笑来曾在其个人公众号上进行了回应,表示陈伟星没有证据,是对自己的诽谤。
And just half a month ago, Chen made a statement to make Li laugh, which is probably the same, mainly accusing him of embezzling investors’ digital money. Li responded on his personal public name, saying that Chen has no evidence, and that he is defamatory.
币圈恩怨是非多,真真假假,难以分辨。李笑来的这段录音撕开了一个口子,希望韭菜们少一点幻想和暴富梦吧。
It's hard to tell. This recording from Li's smile opened up a mouth, hoping that the pickles would have less illusions and ravishing dreams.
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millions of users are watching
重磅!世界头号对冲基金桥水进军中国,你想着销户,桥水却来中国开户了
Heavy pounds! The world's number-one hedge fund is marching into China, and you're thinking about selling, and the bridge is opening up in China.
新弹药待入场!税延养老投资办法来了,预计百亿增量投股市,对金融机构设定千亿门槛
New ammunition on the way in! Taxed old-age investment, estimated to be $10 billion in stock market and a $100 billion threshold for financial institutions.
57岁海航联合创始人、董事长王健意外离世,“离职或离世向基金会捐赠所有股份”,一年前曾公开承诺
The 57-year-old co-founder and chairman of the Alliance, Wang Jian, died unexpectedly, “remitting all shares to the Foundation after he left or died”, a year ago, when he made a public commitment.
重磅!在海南,个人可申请开发无人海岛了!可用于娱乐等行业
In Hainan, an individual can apply for the development of an uninhabited island!
41亿大罚单!创出会所最高罚单纪录!一家银行竟因其倒闭,不止普华永道四大正被轮番处罚
$4.1 billion in tickets! Make the highest ticket record in a club! A bank is being punished for its failure, not only by PricewaterhouseCoopers.
对金融风险有新定调!新一届金稳委首次开会,重量级成员名单曝光,7个协作单位有何玄机
There's a new set of financial risks! The new Kimberley Board is meeting for the first time.
上半年27家券商领34张罚单!这三家投行业务吃罚单最多,内控不当、投行违规都是重灾区
In the first half of the year, 27 coupons were issued with 34 tickets. The three operators had the highest number of tickets.
券商中国是证券市场权威媒体《证券时报》旗下新媒体,券商中国对该平台所刊载的原创内容享有著作权,未经授权禁止转载,否则将追究相应法律责任。
China, which is a new media under the banner of the Securities Times, a securities market authority media, has copyright over the original content of the platform and is prohibited from reproducing it without authorization; otherwise, it will be held liable.
ID:quanshangcnTips:在券商中国微信号页面输入证券代码、简称即可查看个股行情及最新公告;输入基金代码、简称即可查看基金净值。
ID:quanshangcnTips: Enter the security code on the certificater's Chinese microsigner page, a short name for each stock exchange and the latest bulletin; enter the fund code, a short name for the net value of the fund.
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b> has a good habit called "end-of-view"
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